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		<title>Ian Foster &#8211; What&#8217;s faster&#8211;a supercomputer or EC2?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found this interesting article about a comparison today, you should read the whole article here: On EC2, I am told that it may take ~5 minutes to start 32 nodes (depending on image size), so with high probability we will finish the LU benchmark within 100 + 300 = 400 secs. On the supercomputer, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this interesting article about a comparison today, you should read the whole article<a href="http://ianfoster.typepad.com/blog/2009/08/whats-fastera-supercomputer-or-ec2.html"> here</a>:</p>
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<li>On <strong>EC2</strong>, I am told that it may take ~5 minutes to start 32 nodes (depending on image size), so with high probability we will finish the LU benchmark within 100 + 300 = 400 secs.</li>
<li>On the <strong>supercomputer</strong>, we can use Rich Wolksi&#8217;s <a href="http://nws.cs.ucsb.edu/ewiki/nws.php?id=Batch+Queue+Prediction">QBETS queue time estimation service</a> to get a bound on the queue time. When I tried this in June, QBETS told me that if I wanted 32 nodes for 20 seconds, the probability of me getting those nodes within 400 secs was only 34%&#8211;not good odds.</li>
<p><span class="attribution zemanta-reblog-cite" style="text-align: right; display: block; width: 100%; padding-top: 1em; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 1em; padding-left: 0px;">ianfoster.typepad.com, <a href="http://ianfoster.typepad.com/blog/2009/08/whats-fastera-supercomputer-or-ec2.html">Ian Foster</a>, Aug 2009</span>
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<p>These comparisons depends from my point of view always on experienced data and mainly on your various scenario Neutral declarations are hard to find. I asked <a href="http://twitter.com/befreax">Thijs Metsch</a> for some experienced data of <a href="http://www.reservoir-fp7.eu/">RESERVOIR</a> project he mentoined in Twitter. Looking forward for an answer from him&#8230;<br />
Does anyone else have some own experienced data for starting EC2 images in different environments and with various scenarios? </p>
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